This is a collection of published news and opnions on the above subject:
http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Friday/Letters/2346939/Article/index_html
NST Online » Letters
2008/09/12
Teaching Science/Math in English: Qualified teachers a key factor
THIS is a plea to the government not to back out on its policy to teach Science and Mathematics in English. In deciding on a very important matter such as this, narrow-minded, jingoistic and even hypocritical views from whatever quarters should be ignored for the sake of Malaysia’s future.
What is obvious is that the policy, like many others, has been deemed a “failure” by some quarters because of implementation weaknesses.
To begin with, to successfully teach these two subjects or any subjects in English, there must be parallel, concerted and deliberate efforts to improve the students’ command of the language.
While RM5 billion was reported to have been spent on its implementation, how much was spent, as a separate programme, to enable students to master English?
It is a national problem, simply because of our dire shortage of teachers competent enough to teach English and to teach in English.
Do we have colleges just to produce the much-needed English-language teachers?
Please address this weakest link in the implementation chain. If this is done, English could even be used to teach a few other subjects.
Almost two generations of Malay-sians have been prevented from mastering this language of global knowledge and business. How much longer must we wait before we see the political will to reverse the rot?
In the meantime, we must not put the reverse gear on the Science-and-Mathematics-in-English policy. We must move forward if we want to produce human capital all Malaysians can be proud of.
NST Online » Letters
2008/09/12
Teaching Science/Math in English: Reverse this flawed policy
IT was shocking to see the overwhelming response in favour of continuing the policy of teaching Science and Mathematics in English.
No one focused on what Science and Mathematics classes in schools are supposed to be about: Science and Mathematics.
Surely, that should be the primary criterion in considering whether computers should be used instead of blackboards, if calculators should be allowed to replace the abacus and, certainly, if English should be the medium of instruction.
Ultimately, we must set our priorities right. If improving the level of English is our concern — as it should be — it must be done through other channels that do not adversely affect an equally important agenda: providing fair “access” to Mathematics and Science to all.
Middle-class urban-dwell- ing Malaysians — me included — are mostly wary of developing elitist tendencies, especially when it comes to education. That a study revealing the flaws in the policy could be so readily ignored and doubted, however, indicates a state of denial among many whose children may be comfortable with things as they are.
But nobody can escape the fact that if there is sufficient evidence showing that the policy is leading to a poorer understanding of Science and Mathematics, with geographical and class underpinnings involved, it is really not the implementation of the policy that needs fixing.
Instead, it is the flawed policy that requires reversal, if for nothing else, in the spirit of fairness.
NST Online » Letters
2008/09/12
Teaching Science/Math in English: Students’ needs come first
THE debate regarding the language of instruction for Mathematics and Science has been focusing mainly on issues of bias towards or against certain races, ability to cope with different languages and even national unity. But two factors have not been addressed sufficiently: the choices available for parents and students, and what is best for the students in the long run.
My opinion as a father and businessman (and hence, employer), is that students need to be proficient in English in mathematical and scientific studies. Their chances of securing employment or careers of their choice would greatly improve. Unless that student is keen on venturing into employment in China or Taiwan, learning Mathematics and Science in Mandarin is not going to be of any use. In any case, we already see many students in China learning English today and that should tell us something.
It would be good if the people debating this issue would put the interests of the students first for a change. And for those students who are going to find it difficult learning Mathematics and Science in English, and would rather be instructed in Bahasa Malay-sia, my frank opinion is that they would be better off getting Cs in Mathematics/Science in English than As in the same subjects in Bahasa Malaysia.
NST Online » Letters
2008/09/12
Teaching SCIENCE & MATH IN ENGLISH: Survey conclusions may be flawed, not policy
By : NORAINI YAACOB, Petaling Jaya
YOUR publication of a study supposedly revealing flaws in the Mathematics/Science-in-English policy should come under scrutiny. Based on the results published, Malay students did worse in the survey when answering the mathematical questions in Malay (37.3 per cent correct) rather than in English (39.6 per cent correct).
I am not a market research analyst or statistician, but the methodology and sampling for the survey is very important — the size and demographics of those surveyed is key to the study. Too few details of the study were shown but the conclusions were prominently published, leading many to believe what may not be.
NST Online » Letters
2008/09/12
Teaching SCIENCE & MATH IN ENGLISH: Don’t give up, our children deserve better
ON one hand, member of parliament for Rembau, Khairy Jamaluddin, said we failed because the policy of teaching Mathematics and Science in English was half-baked, etc. Yet he acknowledged that “English… is a basic requirement for students and job-seekers… undisputed lingua franca” (“It’s high time we ditched this policy — NST, Sept 9).
So settle for a “quick-fix band aid” policy. Improve the programme now that the shortcomings have been identified. The policy’s weaknesses are no excuse for jeopardising our children’s future.
As a politician educated overseas and who would be able to send his child to international school, Khairy is the last person to understand the helplessness ordinary parents feel when their child, a product of the local education system, graduates but fails to land a good job or any job at all because he/she cannot speak good English.
So, at best, these Malay graduates can only work in government agencies.
Not much chance for those who speak broken English, if any. Not as in our days when the job field was open to all. Everyone had a chance. We had a level playing field.
When it was announced then that Science and Mathematics were to be taught in English, my children were very happy with the news. Even my 85-year-old mother commented that in the first place, the government should not have changed the medium of instruction from English to Malay. She, a kampung granny who studied till Year Six in a Malay school, has so much foresight.
And now when we face problems teaching only two subjects in English, our politicians and educationists want to give up! Miracles do not happen overnight.
If the teachers are not capable, train them well and give them incentives. During this transition period, even if it is going to take another 10 years, recruit former teachers, retirees or those fluent in English and good in Mathematics and Science, give them some training, then send them to schools that need help.
I am a mother of five. I sent all of them to a government Malay school. I could afford to send them for extra English tuition. Despite this, their English is nothing like ours. So how about those who cannot afford tuition?
Is the government going to ditch its policy when the importance of English far outweighs all reasons the nay-sayers can muster?
NST Online » Letters
2008/09/08
USE OF ENGLISH: Let’s continue with the policy
THE news report, “Wrong to learn language this way” (NST, Sept 4), on the teaching of Science and Mathematics in English highlighted the belief by some educationists that the deteriorating standard of English could not be arrested by teaching Science and Mathematics in English.
It was also suggested that if the intention was to improve the standard of English, then the government should start with arts subjects and also increase the number of English periods in schools.
While there is truth in this, it should be remembered that the move to teach Science and Mathematics in English from 2003 was not to improve the standard of English.
The main reason was that we did not want to be left behind in global economic competition and participation.
The English language is the language of the sciences and arts.
It is the lingua franca of numerous disciplines in the education world.
Many books, journals, reference materials and research papers are written by the Western world in English.
The government hopes that children will have a strong foundation in Science and Mathematics by teaching basic terminology and concepts of Science and Mathematics in English in primary and secondary schools.
A strong foundation will enable them to read science reference books and journals in English at universities.
It will also enable them to contribute research papers in the international arena.
Apart from that, there is an information overload as students can access information and knowledge from all over the world through the Internet.
Many students have access to the Internet and they can access the latest scientific knowledge if they have a strong foundation in Science and Mathematics in English.
The medium of instruction of the language of Science and Mathematics on the Internet is English.
Because of the rapid pace of information overload in the scientific field, Dewan Bahasa dan Pustaka has been unable to cope with translating the information from English to Bahasa Malaysia.
Before it can translate the information into books, it is out of date.
It is, therefore, a waste of money, resources and manpower to translate.
Another problem in translation is that the true and intended meaning of the original message is lost.
It is the intention of the government that students access the information in the language in which it was transmitted first hand.
Many developing countries have reverted to teaching Science and Mathematics in English.
It is the global trend and even China is engaging teachers from England to teach English in its schools.
All around us, much prominence is given to the English language, especially in Science and Mathematics
However, we in Malaysia are still debating whether to continue teaching the subjects in English.
It is time that we think global and act local.
Therefore, let us embrace the change that is taking place all over the world with regard to the prominence of English in the fields of education and science.
The possibility of reverting to teaching Science and Mathematics in the national language and the mother-tongue language stems from the finding that many primary rural schoolchildren face problems learning Science and Mathematics in English.
This is because many of them come to school without any knowledge of English.
Without the ability to read and understand simple English, it is impossible for rural children to understand the concepts and content of Science and Mathematics in English.
Rural primary school teachers have to go back to basics and teach the children the alphabet, the sound system, syntax, grammar and the mechanics of writing the English alphabet.
As suggested by the National Union of the Teaching Profession, pupils from Year 1 to Year 3 should be given a thorough grounding in English with simple Science and Mathematics terms and concepts integrated into the English lesson.
Pupils from Year 4 to Year 6 will be gradually introduced to Science and Mathematics in English.
This idea mooted by the Curriculum Development Centre of the Education Ministry is called the ELiTE (Early Literacy Through English) programme, which is being implemented in trial stages in selected rural primary schools.
The programme, if implemented nationwide next year, will see Year One, Two and Three children using a curriculum that has Science and Maths elements integrated into the English language module.
English language teachers and Science and Maths teachers will use the same module to teach early literacy skills so that the children can read, understand and write simple English words and instructions.
There has been positive feedback on ELiTE from rural schools that have run the programme.
Many rural children who have come through the 2003 batch have shown much improvement in their English-language proficiency.
It is common to hear the children speaking English in the classroom with their friends.
Even teachers have shown marked improvement in their linguistic competence and display greater confidence in teaching the two subjects.
However, the government has said that it will decide whether to revert at the end of the year after taking into consideration the findings of educationists and the results of the Ujian Pencapaian Sekolah Rendah examination, which comprises the first batch of children who went through the language policy change.
I hope the government will receive positive feedback so that it can continue the policy of teaching Science and Maths in English.
NST Online » Letters
2008/09/08
USE OF ENGLISH: Let’s continue with the policy
THE news report, “Wrong to learn language this way” (NST, Sept 4), on the teaching of Science and Mathematics in English highlighted the belief by some educationists that the deteriorating standard of English could not be arrested by teaching Science and Mathematics in English.
It was also suggested that if the intention was to improve the standard of English, then the government should start with arts subjects and also increase the number of English periods in schools.
While there is truth in this, it should be remembered that the move to teach Science and Mathematics in English from 2003 was not to improve the standard of English.
The main reason was that we did not want to be left behind in global economic competition and participation.
The English language is the language of the sciences and arts.
It is the lingua franca of numerous disciplines in the education world.
Many books, journals, reference materials and research papers are written by the Western world in English.
The government hopes that children will have a strong foundation in Science and Mathematics by teaching basic terminology and concepts of Science and Mathematics in English in primary and secondary schools.
A strong foundation will enable them to read science reference books and journals in English at universities.
It will also enable them to contribute research papers in the international arena.
Apart from that, there is an information overload as students can access information and knowledge from all over the world through the Internet.
Many students have access to the Internet and they can access the latest scientific knowledge if they have a strong foundation in Science and Mathematics in English.
The medium of instruction of the language of Science and Mathematics on the Internet is English.
Because of the rapid pace of information overload in the scientific field, Dewan Bahasa dan Pustaka has been unable to cope with translating the information from English to Bahasa Malaysia.
Before it can translate the information into books, it is out of date.
It is, therefore, a waste of money, resources and manpower to translate.
Another problem in translation is that the true and intended meaning of the original message is lost.
It is the intention of the government that students access the information in the language in which it was transmitted first hand.
Many developing countries have reverted to teaching Science and Mathematics in English.
It is the global trend and even China is engaging teachers from England to teach English in its schools.
All around us, much prominence is given to the English language, especially in Science and Mathematics
However, we in Malaysia are still debating whether to continue teaching the subjects in English.
It is time that we think global and act local.
Therefore, let us embrace the change that is taking place all over the world with regard to the prominence of English in the fields of education and science.
The possibility of reverting to teaching Science and Mathematics in the national language and the mother-tongue language stems from the finding that many primary rural schoolchildren face problems learning Science and Mathematics in English.
This is because many of them come to school without any knowledge of English.
Without the ability to read and understand simple English, it is impossible for rural children to understand the concepts and content of Science and Mathematics in English.
Rural primary school teachers have to go back to basics and teach the children the alphabet, the sound system, syntax, grammar and the mechanics of writing the English alphabet.
As suggested by the National Union of the Teaching Profession, pupils from Year 1 to Year 3 should be given a thorough grounding in English with simple Science and Mathematics terms and concepts integrated into the English lesson.
Pupils from Year 4 to Year 6 will be gradually introduced to Science and Mathematics in English.
This idea mooted by the Curriculum Development Centre of the Education Ministry is called the ELiTE (Early Literacy Through English) programme, which is being implemented in trial stages in selected rural primary schools.
The programme, if implemented nationwide next year, will see Year One, Two and Three children using a curriculum that has Science and Maths elements integrated into the English language module.
English language teachers and Science and Maths teachers will use the same module to teach early literacy skills so that the children can read, understand and write simple English words and instructions.
There has been positive feedback on ELiTE from rural schools that have run the programme.
Many rural children who have come through the 2003 batch have shown much improvement in their English-language proficiency.
It is common to hear the children speaking English in the classroom with their friends.
Even teachers have shown marked improvement in their linguistic competence and display greater confidence in teaching the two subjects.
However, the government has said that it will decide whether to revert at the end of the year after taking into consideration the findings of educationists and the results of the Ujian Pencapaian Sekolah Rendah examination, which comprises the first batch of children who went through the language policy change.
I hope the government will receive positive feedback so that it can continue the policy of teaching Science and Maths in English.
2008/09/07
TEACHING OF MATHS AND SCIENCE IN ENGLISH: The story on thinking Science and speaking English
MAY 10, 2002 marked a momentous turning point in the country’s education history.
The move came in response to complaints over the decline in the language and was, at the same time, meant to enhance knowledge in Science and Mathematics.
This instantly stirred a passionate debate, which remains to this day.
The government allocated RM5 billion to implement the programme over the following five years.
Small schools and those without electricity were given generator sets and a 34-inch digital television set in place of LCD projectors.
Teachers were trained and given courseware and guides. The Education Ministry also set up hotlines for queries.
The teaching of Mathematics and Science in English for Year One, Form One and Lower Six students began on Jan 5, 2003.
In the early stages, the ministry reported that everything was smooth sailing.
Even the National Union of the Teaching Profession said the feedback it had received showed that most students were keen to learn Mathematics and Science in English.
But within the first month of its enforcement, teachers in some schools reported that students who were weak in English were struggling with the lessons.
Teachers were often forced to revert to Bahasa Malaysia to ensure students understood the basic concepts.
And by April, Education Minister Tan Sri Musa Mohamad was threatening to discipline teachers who conducted Mathematics and Science classes in Bahasa Malaysia.
Yet in June 2003, just six months after the programme began, Musa reported that students’ performance in Science and Mathematics had improved significantly.
Quoting a study by the ministry’s school inspectorate division, he said average scores in Science, Mathematics and English had improved.
About 85 per cent of teachers in 1,031 schools covered in the study said they were inspired and confident in implementing the policy.
Despite this, and figures presented in Parliament over the years showing improvements in the average Mathematics and Science scores, questions continued to dog the new policy.
In January 2006, four students sought a declaration from the High Court that the policy of teaching Science and Mathematics in English was unconstitutional.
They wanted the subjects to be taught again in Bahasa Malaysia in national primary and secondary schools, and in Mandarin and Tamil in vernacular primary schools.
At the end of that year, the ministry reported a nine per cent drop in the number of students who answered PMR Mathematics and Science papers fully in English.
Though there have been numerous examples of students, teachers and schools doing well with the new policy direction, there were also those that had not adapted well.
This spurred Johor Umno chief Datuk Abdul Ghani Othman to hit out against the policy during debates at the party’s General Assembly last year.
Ghani, who is also Johor menteri besar, said the move widened the divide between urban and rural schools.
His criticism dragged the debate back into the limelight, tailed by a chorus of calls for a policy reversal.
Even the MCA Youth, at its convention last August, called for Ujian Pencapaian Sekolah Rendah test papers in the two subjects to be written in Mandarin in Chinese schools.
Education Minister Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein said that studies on the issue were being carried out by his ministry.
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NST Online » Columns
2008/09/10
ZAINUL ARIFIN: This is no time to mess with our kids’ future
OBVIOUSLY, opinions are varied on the contentious issue of the teaching of Mathematics and Science in English. People are divided, as they should be, and so let the debate begin. It is better than the latest political shenanigans.
There are, ladies and gentlemen, as they say, statistics and statistics. Now depending on what strokes one’s fancy, the glass is either half empty or half full. Hence, the policy is either serving or failing our kids.
Last week, I alluded to the danger of making the right decision based on flawed conclusions. I think this might be the case here, especially when it is widely admitted that one of the main problems is that many teachers lack proficiency in the language. As a result, many seek the easy way out and teach in languages they are comfortable in.
When it was first introduced in 2002, the idea was to have teaching aids, mainly computer software and hardware, which would help teachers and pupils familiarise themselves with the language. Reports now suggest that many of the computers are used for many things but that.
Blaming the previous administration for introducing this policy is disingenuous. Surely, given the situation we find ourselves in vis-a-vis the English language, the idea has merit. These are desperate times, requiring radical ideas without slinking into our comfort zones.
Everyone talks about the need to improve the teaching of English in schools, which surely is our collective wish. But this is something that is nowhere near the horizon now.
If we now are lamenting some teachers’ problem with the language even when conducting fact-based subjects, pray tell where are we going to get the teachers who can teach our kids grammar and syntax, not to mention double negatives and alliterations?
English is taught not as a language, but a subject, which one needs to study and cram for examinations. It is even referred to as BI, short for Bahasa Inggeris, which emphasises its alien-ness.
It is only when the medium of instruction of Mathematics and Science is English that it becomes alive as a language.
Now consider this possibility, too: the level of comprehension or comfort in English among Year Six pupils — those who have lived through six years of the policy — is better than those before them who had less exposure to the language.
Have there been studies on the state of English proficiency arising from the policy, studies as thorough as the one on the level of achievements in Science and Mathematics?
If my hunch is correct, then obviously, the policy, having met its English language objective, cannot be deemed a failure.
And if that is the case, then we should not ditch it but instead work towards improving it to serve our Science, Mathematics and English objectives better.
Are we using linguists or English experts in developing our children’s curriculum to structure a gradual, orderly and pedagogically sound entry into Mathematics, Science and English?
There are arguments that rural, poor children are at a disadvantage when Science and Mathematics are taught in English. This is, of course, a bogey, since who among us would want to deprive our rural, poor brethren of a better future.
Are the rural poor, now working or studying, and having lived through the previous policy, better served by it?
Are their abilities to score in Mathematics and Science, taught in Bahasa Malaysia, Mandarin or Tamil, an advantage when pitted against those slacker urban kids whose only salvation is being glib-tongued in the imperialist language?
Perhaps someone should look at the borrowing habits in our local universities and see how many English reference books, where most knowledge resides, are checked out. Someone should also see whether there is an economic correlation between socioeconomic achievements and English language proficiency.
These are also studies worth doing. Statistics and damned statistics, eh?
Let us look at this issue beyond our obsessions on the number of A’s our children get, which is now to be the guiding principle for our decision on the policy. The nation’s fate and future cannot be gambled based on our 12-year-olds’ results.
Most supporters of the policy are not blind to the fact that it is not perfect and neither are they rabid Anglophiles. Mostly, they are likely to be practical people, parents and employers, who see a problem.
They care about the future of our children, and our country. Parents are rightly emotional on the issue, but they harbour no political agenda and thus need not test the pulse of the electorate to decide. Their constituents are their children.
NST Online » NewsBreak
2008/09/09
This year’s UPSR results to determine if Science and Mathematics will be taught in English
BERNAMA
PUTRAJAYA, TUES:
The results of a total of 518,616 pupils sitting for the Ujian Penilaian Sekolah Rendah (UPSR) examination this year will be one indicator for the continuation of teaching science and mathematics in English.
“However, the questions for the two subjects would be bilingual,” he told reporters after visiting Sekolah Rendah Kebangsaan Putrajaya Persint 11 (1) here today.
Alimuddin said determination of continuing the policy was not limited to the results the UPSR pupils will obtain this year.
“The results will only be a part of the determination. Many other factors wil be considered including views and suggestions from various quarters through round-table discussions,” he said.
The discussions involve teachers and students of primary and secondary schools in both urban and rural areas.
“Discussions with politicians are scheduled for October,” he said.
On examinations centres in flood-affected states, Alimuddin said everything was going smoothly although three Kedah schools experienced minor flooding.
They are Sekolah Kebangsaan (SK) Bidong, SK Teroi, Yan and SK Kuala Muda. There are 8,171 exam centres this year.
Meanwhile, Alimuddin said begining this year students picked for fully-residential schools have to sit for an aptitude test to determine their disposition and readiness.
“The pioneer test will be conducted by the Malaysian Examinations Board in 600 schools after the UPSR exam,” he said, adding that there were 6,000 places in 54 fully-residential schools and 750 more places would be available if five more such schools are completed next year. “Applications are open from Sept 1 till Oct 31 and results will be known by Dec 15,” he said.
Alimuddin reminded parents that offers were final and any change of school or subjects stream was not permitted and no appeal will be entertained.
Meanwhile, Alimuddin said begining this year students picked for fully-residential schools have to sit for an aptitude test to determine their disposition and readiness.
“The pioneer test will be conducted by the Malaysian Examinations Board in 600 schools after the UPSR exam,” he said, adding that there were 6,000 places in 54 fully-residential schools and 750 more places would be available if five more such schools are completed next year.
“Applications are open from Sept 1 till Oct 31 and results will be known by Dec 15,” he said.
Alimuddin reminded parents that offers were final and any change of school or subjects stream was not permitted and no appeal will be entertained.
2008/09/04
Teaching Science and Mathematics in English: ‘Wrong to learn language this way’
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KUALA LUMPUR: It is wrong to use subjects to teach English. This is the consensus of educationists on the deteriorating standard of the language among Malaysian students.
“They are hoping that by some magic, the pupils will learn the language in this way,” said Royal Professor Ungku Aziz.
“For people to learn the language properly, they must be taught grammar and syntax from the primary, secondary and even up to first year of university.
“The tragedy of our time is that most of those in their 20s have no idea what grammar is all about. You have to learn English according to the grammar rules in order to use the language correctly. You have to learn language as a language first,” he said.
“If the intention is to improve the pupils’ English, then they should start with the arts subjects such as moral studies and also increase the number of English periods,” he said.
“Science involves a lot of thinking while Mathematics does not use too much language and vocabulary.
“It goes against the principles of education and does not achieve any objective,” Pang stressed.
Both Ungku Aziz and Pang agreed that more should be done to improve the standard of English — but by having proper English classes.
They were commenting on the on-going debate and study being conducted by the Education Ministry to review whether it should continue using English to teach Science and Mathematics in primary schools.
The National Union of the Teaching Profession (NUTP) also argued for young pupils to be taught the basics of English before it was used as the medium of instruction for Science and Mathematics.
“Pupils in Year 1 to 3 should be given thorough grounding in English before they are exposed to the concepts and terms in the two subjects (Science and Mathematics),” said NUTP secretary-general Lok Yim Pheng.
“Under stage two (of NUTP’s proposal to improve the standard of English), pupils from Year 4 to 6 should gradually be introduced to the terms.
“At our delegates’ conference in Penang from Aug 24 to 27, we resolved that Science and Mathematics should not be taught directly at stage one (Year 1 to 3).
“We are suggesting that more English periods be added to build up the pupils’ foundation in English. They should be taught grammar,” she said. At the moment, there are only eight English periods per week.
Only after they have achieved a strong foundation should they be taught the two subjects in English, Lok added.
NST Online » Letters
2008/09/10
Teaching of science and maths in english: Persevere with policy
By : WAN MOHD HILMI WAN AHMAD, Kuala Terengganu
I WAS truly upset by your reports on the effectiveness of the campaign to teach Science and Mathematics in English (“Study reveals policy’s flaws” — NST, Sept 7).
I am neither a Mathematics nor a Science teacher, but I feel some students and teachers find it hard to cope with English to begin with, let alone learn and teach Mathematics and Science in that language.
Both teachers and students need to possess a good standard of English to get the momentum going in the classroom but, in most cases, they are struggling to master even the basics of the language.
However, that is not to say we must scrap what we have adopted for so many years and invested so much time and effort in.
Students, and our teachers, too, have been learning English since kindergarten days. So we should persevere with teaching Science and Mathematics in English.
What we need to do is to muster enough determination to carry on while also rectifying the mistakes in implementation that have worked against the success of the teaching programme. Where there’s a will, there’s a way.
NST Online » Letters
2008/09/05
USE OF ENGLISH: Language policy has my vote
I REFER to Zainul Arifin’s “Let parents decide on English policy” (NST, Sept 3).
When Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad announced the decision to teach Mathematics and Science in English, it rekindled my hope in the local education system.
As it is, most of my peers had opted to send their kids to either Chinese or private schools. But with the teaching of Mathematics and Science in English, I thought there was perhaps a spark of hope in our national schools.
I am sure that many pupils from the rural areas will suffer initially but, as Zainul says, kids are better adapters and adopters than adults. I am sure that many of our English-speaking elite did not hail from English-speaking families. I have many Malay friends who speak perfect English although their parents did not.
To children from English-speaking backgrounds, it doesn’t make much difference.
When I was doing my matriculation in Australia, although I studied in Bahasa Malaysia-medium schools, I had no problem coping with the sudden switch to English when learning Mathematics and Science.
However, my peers who did not speak English (this includes those of Chinese descent) did have problems adapting. As a result, most of their High School Certificate scores were compromised.
At the end of the day, it is better to suffer a bit in primary school than to struggle learning a language later in life.
It is this same rationale that persuades many Malaysian Chinese parents to send their children to Chinese schools. “Although we don’t speak Chinese at home, the kids can cope”, I often hear them say. Children do pick up much more easily than adults.
I have yet to meet anyone who says, “Oh, I am so glad we did not study Mathematics and Science in English during our school days”.
Extra knowledge is a good thing. I look at the pullouts in the NST like Didik, and am impressed by the Mathematics and Science questions in English. It gives our syllabus an international feel. And it gives me no qualms to send my children to a national school.
Zainul’s suggestion for a referendum within each school is a great one. I am almost sure that parents in my children’s school will vote to retain the policy of teaching Mathematics and Science in English.
The government should look into proper training of teachers. Don’t deprive the children of Malaysia of a brighter, international, global future because of bad implementation of a good policy.
NST Online » Frontpage
2008/09/07
TEACHING OF MATHS AND SCIENCE IN ENGLISH:
Study reveals policy’s flaws
By : Elizabeth John and Aniza Damis
TANJUNG MALIM: Five years after schools began teaching Mathematics and Science in English, tests on thousands of students have revealed poor scores in these subjects.
The tests and surveys, part of a study of that policy, have also shown that the majority of students still find it hard to follow Mathematics and Science lessons in English.
Universiti Pendidikan Sultan Idris (UPSI) put over 3,000 Year Five pupils and about 2,800 Form Two students around the country through short Mathematics, Science and English language tests between February last year and January.
The schoolchildren were from a mix of urban, rural and vernacular schools in Peninsular Malaysia.
The tests were made up of modified past-year examination questions. Some were taken straight out of textbooks.
Some 1,700 Year Five pupils tested this January had a mean score of 7.89 out of a maximum 20 for Mathematics.
The results were not much better for Science: a mean of 4.08 out of 14. English proficiency was not good either: a mean of 11.87 out of 31.
The mean scores of Malay and Orang Asli pupils were also much lower than those of the Chinese and Indians, said study leader Professor Emeritus Datuk Isahak Haron.
Isahak has called the policy a failure, particularly in terms of its impact on Malay students in national schools (Sekolah Kebangsaan), and is asking for a return to the teaching of Mathematics and Science in Bahasa Malaysia.
In the survey, many Year Five pupils told researchers they found it hard to learn Mathematics and Science in English, saying they did not understand the lessons.
In one sample, less than a fifth of the Year Five Malay students surveyed considered it easy to learn Science in English and only about a third thought it was easy to learn Mathematics in English.
When a sample of 1,300 Malay students were asked how well they understood the Mathematics and Science lessons when it was taught in English, over 60 per cent said they only understood the lessons “sometimes”.
The policy had even failed in its aim of improving the pupils’ command of English, said Isahak, a lecturer at the Faculty of Cognitive Science and Human Development.
Students struggled to correctly complete even simple sentences, he said, citing the following sentence in a passage taken out of a school textbook: “He ….. to bed” (The answer is “went”.)
An average of 14 per cent and 19 per cent (two different groups) got the answer right.
Even the highest score according to racial breakdown — 41 per cent of Chinese students in one group answered correctly — did not speak well of the policy’s aim of improving English.
Isahak suggested that it would do more good to allocate more time, staff and money to the teaching of English at the primary school level.
He urged a change in how the language was taught in schools. He said the standardised syllabus should be scrapped in favour of lessons tailored to suit the abilities of different students.
The UPSI study also incorporated findings from other surveys of secondary school students that pointed to similar problems.
Shortly after the policy was implemented in 2003, Associate Professor Hashima Jalaluddin of Universiti Kebangsaan Malaysia interviewed 43 teachers and 971 Form One students from six schools in the central and southern states of Peninsular Malaysia .
Most of the teachers said students had problems following Mathematics and Science lessons in English, while 70 per cent of the students said they would be more interested if the two subjects were taught in Bahasa Malaysia.
Only a quarter said they had no problem following the lessons in English.
In 2004, Zainuddin Bikum surveyed 229 students in two schools in Kuala Kubu Baru, Selangor, for his dissertation at UPSI and found that more than half of the group was facing difficulties.
Universiti Kebangsaan Malaysia’s Professor Juriah Long found that about half the students in both urban and rural schools were worried because they found it difficult to follow Mathematics and Science in English. This was one of the results of her 2005 survey of over 7,000 Form Two students nationwide.
Her study, which also looked at the location of schools and the socio-economic background of students, found the concern was greater among Malay students, those in rural schools, and poor students.
Isahak said Malay students in national schools, mostly in rural areas and from lower socio-economic backgrounds, had lost out the most as a result of the decision to teach Maths and Science in English.
The ones who gained from the policy were a small percentage of Malay students from upper middle class families who went to good schools, he said.
However, UPSI’s own test results showed Year Five Malay students from rural schools scored highest in nine out of 10 Maths questions and two out of seven Science questions compared with Malay students in big town and city schools.
Meanwhile, Malay students in city schools consistently fared the lowest.
Isahak believes the difference in the percentages is marginal and because there are more Malay students in rural areas, it is these students who will be most affected.
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Note that it not the fault of the subjects being taught in english that is the issue here. What contributes to the students lack of interest in Maths and Science being taught in English is the pure lack of effort made by most teachers. In most primary and secondary schools, once the language change for these two subjects were made 5 years ago, the teaching personal remained the same. Most of the teachers were good at what they taught, but only in Bahasa Malaysia. Yes, there were courses set up by the government for school teachers to attend. But how can one improve his or her language skills, especially to the level of TEACHING in just a week or two attending such courses? There should be more effort made by our teachers in adjusting to this change in order for any progress to be seen amongst our students. David Ng, Petaling Jaya: Patience, hard work and sacrifice are the main ingredients to allow the young minds of our children to expand and excel. My son will be sitting for his UPSR exams starting tomorrow. When he was enrolled into a national school which he is still in since Year 1, he could hardly utter a word in Malay, let alone form simple sentences, speak nor understand properly. His exam results were poor and carried red ink in almost anything in the national language. He struggled in school without private tuition. My family and I endured a frustrating yet satisfying journey in guiding him on the right track. Right now he is on his own. By all means, he is no “A” student but he is finally scoring decent marks in his Bahasa Malaysia subjects at par with his peers in his term exams and UPSR trials. I wish him well in his UPSR and regardless of the end result, I will still be proud of him as he has come a long way. What we need are more educators who are proficient in both the Malay and English languages to help our young ones master this shotcoming of unsatisfactory results in Science and Mathematics. As it is, a large number of our primary school teachers themselves cannot confidently nor proficiently teach in the English language. It is not a problem with our children. They can be taught to master almost anything. The problem stems from the educators, or rather the system that created our educators. Reverting Science and Mathematics back to our national language is definitely not the solution. Farhan, Kuala Lumpur: When teaching Maths, the objective is to increase the student’s proficiency in Maths. Likewise for Science. The teaching of the subjects should not have anything to do with the language. Let the teachers use whatever language would better serve the students, whether it be Bahasa Malaysia, English, Mandarin or Tamil. As long as the objective of imparting knowledge of Maths and Science is met, then language shouldn’t be a barrier. To improve English, improvement should be made to the English syllabus, not making other subjects as scapegoats. Concern parent: Bahasa Malaysia has been the national language but for Malaysian to be able to compete internationally, they must be able to communicate in English and soon Mandarin. It not enough just to teach Maths and Science in English but other subjects as well. Further, the use of English must be taught early in the primary schools. Many dropped out due to the weak command in English (poor effort to improve due to lack of motivation), poor attitude of the students and incompetent teachers. ENGLISH IN MATHS AND SCIENCE MUST STAY. I am sure the Ministry would have to put in more effort to ensure the competitiveness of the future of our children globally rather to be complacent of “Malaysia” scenerio only. The malay saying, “Katak di bawah tempurung” – shameful. Geraint, Johor Baru: We will see just how much the education ministry values the opinion of the people when a decision is made on this issue. I am sure if a survey is made, find out whether the majority wants the current policy to stay or not, most of us would say yes. If we persist long enough, I am sure we will see improvements. Common sense should prevail over idealistic nationalism. Ariff: Look at the results of the above study positively. Analyze it properly, find out where the problems are and figure out good corrective measures. Don’t just scrap the whole policy! For example, if some teachers are not good at teaching Math & Science in English, send them for more training (only the problematic teachers). Another example, if students at rural areas are not able to catch up, send to them better teachers (probably more incentives should be given to these teachers for their willingness to be sent to rural areas). Anyway, some students are still failing Bahasa Melayu subject even though it is taught in Malay language! My point is we should use the results of the study to IMPROVISE THE POLICY and not to decide whether to continue with it or scrap it totally. Amran, Pulau Indah: My answer is simple. The “culture” of learning Math & Science in English is NOT there! Paul, Petaling Jaya: It’s not the language that is the problem. So stop blaming the language. My elder brother and sisters studied in the MCE and LCE days and I the SRP and SPM era. We still did well without tution. My teachers were very dedicated to teach. They take the pain to ensure we do well and so did my parents. Let’s face it, the real problems are 1) The teachers are not interested in teaching the students and in the students’ future, 2) The focus is on students going for tution where the teacher teaches; 3) Parents don’t spend time with their children to encourage them and help them in their studies. My children have challenges in BM based subjects does that mean all subject must be thought in English. Please go to the root cause and admit the failures and work to improve the quality of our teaching staff rather then fault the policies. The teachers also can’t speak proper English and so communication is really bad. Teachers and Parents should desire to want the best for the children and work towards ensuring that they know how to teach and do it effectively. Theresa MJP: I strongly believe that Maths and Science should be taught in English. I have a few reasons for this. I am now living in New Zealand and I am one of the pioneer students who sat for PMR, SPM and STPM in BM. My BM is no doubt very strong and powerful. However, now I am associating with people of the globe who mostly speak English. I am sad to say that I am not able to put across my opinion nor thoughts to them confidently and thus, hinders my performance and confidence. Learning only one period of English is insufficient. Therefore, in order to prepare our citizens to face the world and voice out opinions confidently the use of English is definitely paramount. So by learning the two most important subjects in English, students are given additional opportunity to use the language. Moreover, the scientific terms used in both the subjects are universally accepted. As such when we further our education to foreign country we are able to stand on par with the rest of the world. Currently, when our local university degree is used overseas very often, our certificate is assessed and not equivalent to foreign degree. Therefore, we are asked to spend money to sit for special English Test. It is so stressful on the student and on the parents when their child is not competent in using English. Why put the the candidate in such predicament? Why can’t we have a paper qualification that is compatible worldwide? The people of Malaysia just have to be open minded and see the truth. Please give our students to use English in Maths and Science. Children when are supported and given the right environment they can master most everthing. Our teachers too are not confident in using English in the classroom, so select and train teachers who are competent. Chin, Klang: We have to remember that 1 generation of good spoken Engish has gone. The parents of the present group of children also can’t speak, read and write English well (inlcuding myself), so it’s natural that they find it difficult. We might need 2 generations before we can be succesful in the implementation. Please be patient and realistic. Everybody knew that we can’t survive outside Malaysia without English. AMJ,KL: Two main benefits of this school: 1.Racial integration, 2.Learned English, plus Bahasa Melayu thru subjects Bahasa Malaysia(compulsory),Sastera and Pendidikan Agama Islam.
I noticed those who come from this school were better off than those who came from Malay school, Chinese or Tamil schools. We had good command of English and Bahasa Malaysia, and least chauvinist. Government should re-introduce English medium school like those years.
drnik:
If the problem is with the attitude, do something to change the attitude. Dont blame Bahasa Malaysia as our main teaching language.
cc, Sarawak: Teaching mathematic and science in english is better. I agree with Ze, Johor about students should work harder and learn like the rest. Do you really think that changing back to old system will be better? I’m not good in english but i enjoy teaching mathematic in english because it’s an opportunity for me and my students to learn speaking and understand english. HangMokhtar, Melaka: My worry is how this cohort of guinea pigs will fare at the university level(even in the local IPTAs)?
The dearth of technical academic books in Bahasa Malaysia points to a similar policy option at the university level – usage of English for science and mathematical subjects. In this regard, Dewan Bahasa (DBP) and local publishers should accelerate the publication of such books in Bahasa Melayu, possibly through government support in the form of better incentives to the writers/translators.Learn from the Japanese experience – look east policy?
haroldz, miri: In order to appreciate and understand the cartoon, the children must master (and learn) english. That how i improved my english during the “growing years”. i try to read english newspaper, watch english news, listen to english channel and use english dictionary. In schooling days (primary and secondary school), students TOLD to concentrate on BM. When they in the Universities and working environment, english is mainly used.
Some local IPTA still use BM as medium to complete final year report.
eddie penang: we blame the students.bet you 85% of the teachers will fail the subject.
Quote:catch the bull by the horn not by the tail….
Githa, KL: Students must be encouraged by their parents to speak & read more on English, I believe that is a good way to boost English usage. At times, the teachers themselves have difficulty teaching in English. They tend to use both Bahasa Malaysia & English in class and confuse the students. Thus, teachers should also play a crucial role to teach Maths & Science in English to their students. Of course, there are some who are really dedicated in delivering their lessons well to the students. But, if every teachers put extra effort, I am sure the students won’t have much problem. It is easy to create and implement a policy, but the pain comes when practising it. Just because some students don’t do well, we should not ‘encourage’ them by switching to Bahasa Malaysia. Instead, we should look forward and take actions on how to improve the students’ performance further. Why should we give an ‘easy’ option for students? If we make it easy for them, will their flying colors reflect a better quality? No, their standard will be lower compared to international students. Everyone should play their role in making this policy a successful one.
Students and teachers should put more effort, and parents should encourage and motivate their children always.
menaz,johor: The teaching of math and science in english was a good start. Any policy to be success takes time. Govt cannot judge or change the policy just bcos there was not much improvement in just 5yrs. It is not just the failure of students but actually the teachers who are not taking initiative to learn. If teachers dont encourage then why will children be interested.Govt should be strict only then teachers and students will start to take it seriously. If given choice they will always take a easy route.So just make it compulsary.Instead of wasting time fighting for change of language,they should become serious in teaching and learning in english language.
Siva, Serian: How can you tell some thing is bad when you cannot compare it with others???
Pls give as time as teachers to do our job, we will improve it soon…
Mustafa: Only idiots who do not believe statistical analysis. The outcomes are eye opener. Instead of teaching science and maths in English, more resources should be allocated for English in school. Rectify the subject teaching. And hopefully for idiots and ‘mat saleh’ wannabes, please stop messing with our children future! AA,Kedah: Teachers play an important factor here. Majority science and maths teachers are not competent in the language and they also do not upgrade themselves with language skills. Please conduct a survey on this and I think we,ll know how many maths and science teachers read english materials other than the provided textbook and a couple of revision books filled with severe language mistakes. Children can grasp languages quickly and and it’s proven with english medium schools long time ago where students from non- English speaking background can easily converse within months of schooling.
WHERE DID WE GO WRONG?
Debra:
Employ proper english teachers to teach proper english… not the ones who cant even pronounce words correctly.
Bornfree: It’s just a lot of students are lazier. Try teaching those subjects from that grassroot level than to try to prune the tree at midlevel.
Foundation is very important and start from primary level.
joanne, Ipoh: Let us, Malaysians be known to be a people that does not change our policies based merely on some ‘findings’. We need to think further ahead in the future if we want to progress as a nation, to go further beyond Asia. Our children needs a vision from those who are supposed to be in authoritive to bring about a better future for them.
For once, please stop debating whether English or Malay. Let’s see things in proper perspective.
WTan, Auckland,NZ: Educationist should realise that the tree of any system will bear good and bad fruits.
It is all about how one cultivates the process to bring good results.
Zie, Kuala Lumpur: Those days before KBSM and KBSR being introduce we learn most of the subject in English. The issues is not about the policy, but how does the policy been implement. Most teachers today just concentrate in their language since those who observe them just evaluate their capability to speak english and in the end, the skill of the subject being taught is neclected. However, my cousin which is also a teacher told me that they are going to implement other ways of student-centered and result oriented teaching methods.
I hope also for examinations to not just evaluate what students can memorise but how they apply what they have learnt in Maths and Science.
Yhee – Ipoh: I strongly agree to continue using English to educate our children. This is for the sake of our country and our children. Goverment should make sure that the teachers thenselves can speak properly before doing any research like this and blame the system. jT3elf, Kuching: I believe these two subjects (Maths and Science)would be best thought in BM, as in other countries (i.e Japan ,Iran), these subjects are taught in their own native languages, yet we found many of world class Scientist and Mathematician came from these countries. What is important is for our student to grasp the fundamental knowledge first, and understanding the basic principle in these two subjects. The easiest way to make them understand is to explain in their own mother’s tounge. Faidhur, Shah Alam: It will certainly not do to revert to teaching Mathematics and Science in Bahasa Malaysia, Mandarin or whatever. The subjects need to be continued to be taught in English. English has been accepted by all, Indians in India, Chinese in China, and Indonesians in Indonesia, as the global lingua franca, and having cognizance of this fact, must we pander to the desires of narrow minded communalistic peoples whose only desire is to strengthen their mother tongue at the expense of a good education for our children? Surely the most obvious solution is to bring back English medium schools, and not alongside Malay and Chinese ones either as that would be impractical. We can expect the State to support such a broad range of schools.
No, we need to have the political will to, as did Lee Kuan Yew of Singapore a long time ago, abolish all other schools and replace them with one single language as a medium of instruction, English.
HLNg: As an experienced sixth form mathematics teacher, l found that students did equally well in the subject matter; irrespective of the medium of instruction of the subject prior to their Form 6 education. So, at the upper secondary level, it is best to continue the present policy. Inderbir, KL: It is not only Math and science that should be taught in English but all the other subjects as well.
I went to an international school and I realize how much I would have missed had I studies any of the subjects in a language understood only by a tiny fraction of the world population.
long, ampang:
Science and Matth should be taught in the mother tongue so that the children can grasp the concept.
Benny, Melaka: A student should master the English language first before he can read, write and understand the other subjects in English. It will be difficult to master the English language if insufficient time is allowed for practice. By this I mean the students will need to speak English most of the time in their schools. Hence, the only practical solution is to change the medium of instruction to English. I was from an English medium school right from primary to secondary school. During those days, I believe almost all Malaysians speak English in schools except for rural schools. My Malay, Indian and Sikh friends, they all speak English naturally, albeit sometimes Malaysian-style English if you know what I mean. Language learning is the most difficult task.
I believe it may take a decade or so to master a language. Who are our present Malay ministers, past ministers, politicians and other professionals who can speak and write good English today? They are non-other than Anwar Ibrahim, ex-PM Tun Mahathir, Syed Husin Ali, Bakri Musa, Din Merican, Farish Noor and many more who are also bloggers. These are the ones who were mainly educated in the English medium schools where English was spoken 90% of the time. Yes, practice makes perfect. In the rural areas, there is hardly any opportunity for these children to speak English, least of all to have any practice in speaking the language. The Malays speak Malay amongst themselves, the Chinese speak Mandarin or their dialects, the Indians speak Tamil and so on. How then can we expect these rural children to read and write in good English? Speaking and listening skills come first before reading and writing. For a start, the government should allow for the setting up of English-medium schools. There are in fact such schools already called international schools like Alice Smith ( where Raja Petra Kamaruddin came from), ELC, Mont Kiara etc… but these schools are meant for the rich who are affordable. Let the parents decide on whether they want to send their children to English- medium, national-medium or the other vernacular schools. In this way, Malaysia can allow for her people to master the language of their choice. After all, our constitution guarantees the freedom of our peoples to decide on their choice of schools. We cannot have a “one-solution” for all schools as far as the English language is concerned. We had better opt for diversity in the languages. Let our peoples be made up of different language experts – Malay, Chinese or Tamil.
A.Jay: Scientific terms in BM is a problem. Esp when you study abroad, and trying to coupe with the English terms.I hope people understand this . Janice,Johor Bahru:
Worse still, most of the teachers aren’t proficient in their command of English too. Therefore, it is no wonder the outcome of the implementation is disappointing. Since it has already been implemented, hold on to it but of course with some ammendments. Thank you.
Ju, Kota Damansara: Referencing to Q&A question No.1 and No. 9 of similar type of question structure shows that the English format scores better than the Bahasa Malaysia language except for Orang Asli children as indicated with the total percentage score of 40.5% for questions in English compared to 38.7% for questions in BM. Even the Malay student scored better in English than in BM for Maths.
Based on the above studies, it does not show the percentage of Maths & Science results if it was conducted in Bahasa Malaysia. I suspect that the result tested in BM would not be much different from question tested in Englsh but atleast they have acquired the command of English as a tool to solve other subjects.
ed: Please move forward, adopted English as a medium language in Math & Science is a right choice!
Teachers, please equip yourselves and do not blame the policy and pupils.
Ab Jalil Baharan:
Reverting the learning of science and mathematic in BM will not solve the problem.
Egbert Louis: I feel that present teachers are not froficient in the language and thats where the flaw lies.
Very often the teachers are unable to express themselves in English and therefore resort to teaching in B.M.
Noria, Kuching: Since they can’t master English why not other languages. I suggest Mandarin.. or better yet German. Since the Germans are considered to be at the fore front of technology these days.Or maybe Bahasa Melayu..or Malaysia.
Oh no!.. I’m confused, now. What language again? To me, it is not the language that is plaguing our students. It is just their attitude. They are so used to being spoonfed and are living in a world where there is practically does not require them to work hard for anything.. not even to buy their textbooks, school fees, uniforms for extra curricular activities, ..even the exam fees are free. Do you know, some of them even say that to get a job is so easy as long as you know the right person… What have we done to our young ones today is very sad.. They have become the most indulgent, narcissistic beings I have ever seen. They are not interested in anything. This is because, if they fail their UPSR they can still go to school, if they obtain all E’s in PMR, they still go to school, if they get all 9G’s in the SPM hey as long as their Bahasa Melayu is a pass, they still get a certificate. So, everybody knows the olsd adage that says no pain, no gain. Unfortunately this is something tha students today do not learn yet. Thus the lackadaisacal attitude towards learning. Please… we do not need another change of policy..even Rome is not build in a day. To base our judgement on a 5 year term is definitely not fair to the students, to the teachers, to the Ministry. Besides, this is English, our supposedly second language. The students will do fine. the maths symbols will not change, science facts will not change. Besides the UPSR, PMR and SPM questions are in both BM and English. Socan we say that it is the language that is the problem?
Observer of Johor: Study whether the teachers themselves are qualified to teach. Are the studnets given enough exposure to English speaking environment. Students are preferably placed under those English speaking environment during their pre-school education followed by their primary education. Therefore, emphasis in English education is important to begin right from the beginning.
Actions need to be taken to mould the children from the very beginning with qualified teachers.
Lim, Cameron Highlands: Although Malay language is the official language in Malaysia, but English language is everything in this world. For example,agreements etc.
We should not just change the policy just because Malay students failed to cope with the policy.
Ramani: You do not expect a policy to work overnight, and to make it work, why not pump in the rural schools with more English teachers? Don’t we have enough manpower to do so? Choosing BM will probably another great downfall to the education system in Malaysia.
How long do we only want to be Jaguh Kampung? Don’t the rural folks also want to be on par with the town folks?
Ze, Johor: First of the Education Ministry should stop changing policies as and when it pleases. Once a policy is made stick to it and keep going. First of all are the teachers suitable for the job. Most of the Malay teachers can hardly speak English and if you engage them to teach in English what can you expect?
Its not the policy that is at fault – it’s the attitude of some teachers and students who just refuse to accept English, that’s all and they know they can get away with it as most likely next year the policy would be scrapped. This is embarrasing and shameful!
ccm: The choice of language in Education is a difficult one. With National, Chinese & Tamil schools available, parents have to decide what is best for their children. In my opinion the decision on Math & Science (BM or English) should not be imposed nor should it be determined by the government. National Schools should continue to teach in BM, likewise in Chinese for Chinese Schools, etc. In a globalised economy, it will be a step forward to bring back English medium schools. Rayme: English is always a second language to Malaysian. I came from an era where schooling is very straightforward with all subjects taught in Bahasa Malaysia and yet my command of the English language is perfect.
Bring back the good old education system, please.
Billy, Kuching: For these six years, we have been teaching Mathematics and Science in English. The learning outcomes and statistics were not showing impressive colors though since our teachers and pupils are not really prepared for this. English is not our mother tongue, it is another subject to be taught! In another words, we are teaching two things simultaneously. Singing and dancing at the same beat sometimes could be very confusing. So this is where it started, blaming the floor by saying that it is not carpeted well. Skeptics and pessimist digging for point to highlight this setback for personal agenda and to discredit the government policy maker. I think it is not fair just to blame the policy and not to consider our attitude as well. Even though it had been an encumbrance for both teachers and student, optimistically I think that it is positively helpful in the long run. This is to consider that our education policyies are to prepare our citizens for a world class education. I strongly believe that our students will appreciate our effort when they are in the top of success. Umar, Kuching: The main intention was to improve the command of English among our students. Therefore, more focus should be given to the teaching of the language in the curricullum. Leave Mathematics and Science out of it for these subjects are universally understood in any language. I scored A’s in both Sains and Matematik in my SRP 1982 examination although they were taught in Bahasa Malaysia. At the same time I did equally well in Bahasa Inggeris! It did not stop me from going overseas to complete my Engineering Degree! I am very concerned with my firstborn who is sitting for UPSR next week, for he seems to have the typical problems identified in the UPSI research, eventhough he is schooling in one of the so called “Sekolah Bestari” in the heart of a City. Regrettablly, I wouldn’t put high hopes on his Mathematics and Science results this coming exam. The Minister of Education and his Ministry should bear the responsibility for the failure. I totally agree with UPSI’s recommendation to revert back to the National Language (Bahasa Malaysia) without FURTHER DELAY. What can be a better way of educating our children than in our own mother tongue? English is just a SECOND language. I wish not to see my children’s education and future used as a trial or experiment! Thong KC -Malaysian=Ipoh: Changes take time but it has to be fast and furios. As GLOBALISATION does not wait for you, decide to be left behind or make haste like India or China. Be forward looking or be left to rot in years to come as we are slowly decaying now. Cathy Paul: These groups of people includes politicians, educationists and also sadly those championing sectarian causes who are masquerading as educationists are becoming increasingly vocal. Some of the views put across are very detached from the reality in the classrooms and the tremendous effort and resources put in by the Education ministry to ensure its success because the future of the country in this very globalized world hinges very much on the proficiency level of her citizens. Any tinkering and call for reversion back from English should only and only be based on present reality and future needs and further progress of the country. I am a mathematics and science teacher with many years of experience. I have gone through the medium change in the seventies as a student and now another change as a teacher. I believe I am an “insider†of some sort and is able to speak with some degree of authority and understanding based on years experience rather than some preconceived ideas or some fears based on unfounded grounds. Lets go back to the objectives of using English as a medium in the teaching of mathematics and science and compare it with the reality of the classroom situation based on my last 6 years of experience in teaching the subjects completely in English from lower secondary and to form 6 level. There are two main objectives, namely to get the scientific knowledge at the source language and to increase the contact hours with the source language so that general proficiency level of the language and the mastery of scientific terms can be improved in the process. Many have argued that Malay, Chinese or Tamil are also the source languages for mathematics and science. I do not intend to argue otherwise but suffice to say that from being a student once and a teacher now I have gone through two of the three mediums in the preceding sentence and each time I need to read up on something scientific, invariably and without fail I will lay my hands on English materials, the very source language that many seek to do away with. The reason for such automatic action is simple ; either I can’t find any in Malay ormy mother tongue or they are hopelessly out of date or when I go to the net only English is shouting for my attention! I too shared the fear many have expounded that students may not be able to master the subject matter of mathematics and science and neither can the students improve their English proficiency level. So the end results is that they are neither here nor there. These fears are legitimate, however it is not generally true across the board. This is because the determinant is not the subject matter nor the language but the ability, primarily, of the students themselves. From my experience in the classroom situation, many have adapted well to the English medium in mathematics and science and are performing very well indeed. The mastery of subject matter did not suffer and the English proficiency level have improved tremendously. They are able to write reasonably well and able to converse and communicate meaningfully. This is a very marked departure from the same category of students who can master mathematics and science in Malay but usually lack ability in the English language before the introduction of English as the medium of instruction for the two subjects. The amazing thing about this group of students is the fact that they do not come from English speaking middle or higher class homes but ordinary man on the street. This goes to show that the objectives set out above are achievable and success within reach. There is no need to change course midway and deprive the nation of vital human resource competent in the source language. Any change of course is rather premature at this stage. A major policy matter such as this must be given sufficient time to prove itself. There is of course another group of students who are not able to master mathematics, science nor the English language. This is usually cited as the proof that the switch to English is a failure. Such a conclusion is simplistic. They have conveniently forgotten to mention the success of the other group cited above. As a teacher I can tell you, from experience, that this group of pupils is academically disinclined or challenged. They will be weak in almost all other subjects that use Malay as the medium. Some even fail the Malay Language itself. They will still not be able to master mathematics and science even if the medium is Malay. If the reader is a teacher he will understand the point I try to establish here. There is sufficient empirical evidence to support this point in every school if one cares to conduct a study. To put it in simple uncouched language, for the low ability students, the medium of instruction is immaterial. So is the subject matter. Every year there will be thousands who fail more subjects than they pass in the UPSR, PMR , SPM and STPM before this policy initiative. Please get hold of a copy of national result from the relevant authority and you will see my point . At the higher end of the spectrum in terms of learning ability, I can see a very sharp improvement not only in the English Language itself but also the mastery of the subject matter. It will also be superfluous to mention their mastery of the scientific and mathematics terms in English. Another fear factor is the proficiency level of the teachers themselves. Granted there are teething problem in this area at the beginning of the policy. This is simply because of the many lost generations in terms of the mastery of English when everything is taught in Malay. However this problem is largely overcome with tremendous resources poured in by government and the various programmes to help to uplift the standard of English among the science and mathematics teachers. Their level of proficiency is no longer a major impediment that should contribute to the reversion back from English, if at all. A case in point here. At the beginning of the year, I was to a mathematics trainee teacher from a local university under my supervision. I was rather apprehensive about their English proficiency level. However all those apprehensions were put to rest after their first lesson. I was surprised by their level of mastery of the English language. The reason cited by them was that they learn the two subjects in English. This is an early indication of the success of the policy. Moving away from the situation on the ground, let me focus on the debate on this policy. I note with regrets that the debate focuses on the either-or type of solution. It is either English or Malay. If the political situation is such that some sort of change is necessary , the solutions need not be a either – or type of solution. I propose a two mediums solution. This is to take into consideration of those who can learn the two subjects effortlessly in English and those who might have difficulty coping. This solution can take various forms, for example : 1. all students in the science stream must be taught the subjects in English. This is applicable to students in the upper secondary. 2. all school must have a minimum number of classes teaching the subjects in English base on the enrolment. The rest of the classes be taught in Malay/mother tongue. This is applicable to all primary schools. This will be a win-win situation for all; for the parents who want their children to learn in their mother tongue and for the nation’s future need for man power who are proficient in English and able to compete on the world stage.
Another and bolder and better alternative is to resurrect the English Medium schools along side with the existing schools. This can be done in a certain ratio, for example, for every three existing schools, one English medium school be created in every district. In short let us find solutions that are inclusive not exclusive. Creative and inclusive solutions will silent all critics without losing the competitive edge of the country. Finally, as a teacher, I fully support the present policy of using English as a medium of instruction in mathematics and science. And I pray for its continuation.
Allen, Segamat: Change takes time. Why hurry to see the result? This change in policy has not achieved good results partly because for the past few years, there are still some teachers and policy makers who still think that Science and Maths should NOT be taught in English. Many teachers did not bother to teach both the subjects whole-heartedly. There are even some teachers who have taken the incentive but have never taught these subjects in English. They do not speak a single word. So is it the students’ fault or there is a problem during the implementation process? Is our country rich enough to simply change policies? Please take into consideration the future, the resources, the training and all sorts…do not mix education up with politics. GD, Negri Sembilan: By all means, carry on teaching in English! We need to ensure our future workforce is able to compete on a platform which uses the English Language. UPSI’s study found that students were incompetent in using the correct lexicon of the English language. By all means, ensure the teachers are up to mark – after all the BISP (monetary incentive) was given to them to improve their English Language command and writing skills, not as Elaun Kesusahan! This policy is in place for only 6 years. Give it more time. As it is, we have more kids using the language socially, compared to before. More parents are picking up the language because the kids need to be coached at home. In short, don’t kill the goose that lays the golden egg! The older generation switched midway into Bahasa Malaysiain the 70′s without a hitch and it resulted in good speakers of BM proficient in the language structure.Why can’t we give the EL more time and reap the rewards a little later for the larger majority? Let us focus on our children, for our country and NOT pay heed to the selfish few with vested interests. Grace Kong, Sibu.: We can teach Maths and Science in English but before that, make sure that the teachers concerned are all well-trained in English Language before implementing the programme. Mirinda Stephens, Malacca: Sure, we can switch to Bahasa to teach Maths and Science and see how the current generation grow up and suffer the consequences of the future. Maybe some of the policy makers wont be here anymore, so why care? How much weight should we put on one survey like this anyway? Aren’t there flaws as well? 10 years from now, when we compete on an international platform with the English savvy people, where will we end? Do we want scientists and mathematicians who can only speak in our national language but cannot communicate at the international level because they lack understanding of English? If we do, by all means, change back and see how our children and their children suffer. DM: |
2008/09/07
TEACHING OF MATHS AND SCIENCE IN ENGLISH: ‘Revert to teaching in our national language’
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THE teaching of Mathematics and Science in English was controversial when it was introduced five years ago, and it still is. Universiti Pendidikan Sultan Idris lecturer Professor Datuk Dr Isahak Haron says the change to English was an ’irresponsible move’, and many students lost out because of the policy. So, it’s time to cut our losses and go back to teaching these subjects in Bahasa Malaysia, he tells ELIZABETH JOHN and ANIZA DAMIS
Q: From your study, would you say Malay students have lost the most because of this policy?
A: Yes, rural Malays — 70 per cent of them. But we found it’s not only Malay students outside towns who are suffering, it’s also the poorer Malay students in towns — those of lower socio-economic status, even in Ipoh and KL.
Q: Why do non-Malays do better?
A: When it comes to Mathematics, Chinese students have traditionally done better, because they have more practice. But first, they learn it in their own language. The emphasis in Chinese schools is to understand and practise until you get it right. So they will drill knowledge first in Chinese, and then have a Mathematics lesson in English, just to get a grasp on the terminology. That means mastery of the content first. When the fundamentals are strong and you move to Form One and Form Two, you are much better. There’s less of this in Sekolah Kebangsaan.
Q: Is it the same case then for Indian students?
A: A bit like that. And they now have extra coaching through tuition and they’re better at English than the Malay students, so they perform better.
Q: Is the system being used in Chinese schools a better way to go if the government wants to continue with this policy?
A: If you want to continue with this, you have to do what the Chinese schools do. You teach in Bahasa Malaysia and later learn the terminology in English. And if you want to improve the level of English, first, the number of periods of English lessons has to be increased. During the English lesson, you can put in elements of Science and Mathematics. In this way, you increase your vocabulary and learn in a more joyful way. English must be taught by people who are good in English, not by a Maths teacher who is not so good in English. When the students are good in Mathematics and Science, they will be able to understand the concepts of the subjects in English or any other language. The mix in these languages is the worst thing happening now. The teachers cannot teach properly. They are confused and their foundation is weak.
Q: Would it have made a difference if the teachers had had a better command of English?
A: That will take 10 or 20 more years then.
Q: Isn’t it possible to have a concurrent system? Because if you abandon things because they don’t work within five years, then you can never start anything.
A: This is what Dr Mahathir’s (former Prime Minister Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad) people are talking about. They don’t care about the 70 or 80 per cent of the children. All they care about is that their agenda is correct. It doesn’t matter if it takes 20 years; you see his gamble?
Q: What’s your position at Dewan Bahasa dan Pustaka?
A: I’m a board member. But I am first of all an educationist. I care about the children and what they learn.
Q: When students go to university, they suddenly find that almost all the textbooks are in English, so they have difficulty studying. Some students then pay to have some chapters translated into Bahasa Malaysia, but how many of them can afford this?
A: Once upon a time, Malay students were already quite good in Mathematics and Science. Teachers and students were quite confident to teach and learn these subjects in Bahasa Malaysia. In fact, all teachers, Chinese and Indian too, were confident about it. What was lacking was a good command of English. It had nothing to do with Mathematics and Science. The way things are now, you’ve disadvantaged Malay students in all three subjects. My problem was with the way English was taught. The way it is taught to rural children. You don’t have to bring in foreign teachers. What you need to do is study what students need to know, and provide suitable programmes. This has never been done by anyone here. They borrowed programmes from abroad and called it “Communication English” which hasn’t been successful, especially in the rural context. You need another programme. I’ve been demanding for one. I will challenge any TESL (Teaching of English as a Second Language) professor to devise a programme that can, in three months, teach 300 new words to students in a Sekolah Kebangsaan in a rural area and have them enjoy the experience.
Q: So the money and time should be spent on the way English is being taught?
A: Yes. It should be taught differently to everybody. If you are at level two, go for a level two English module. If your English is better, why not start at level four? You do it thoroughly. I’ve been proposing this for the past three years. When children start schooling, each has different abilities, so they all go for a screening test. Then you stream them into classes that fit their level of understanding. The classes should be specialised for all subjects. If a child is good at Bahasa Malaysia and poorer in English, they go for level 2 Bahasa Malaysia and level 1 English. In such classes, you have the right teacher, the specific course materials and undergo the appropriate exercises suited to the child’s needs. Once they pass one level, they can go to the next. Now, if a student is very good at one thing and poor in others, the marks get averaged and they get placed at the bottom of the class. I don’t like averaging. If they are good at something or poor at it, they should be allowed to proceed at their own pace in each subject. But at the same time. there will have to be classes that they enjoy together like art, physical education and music.
Q: Are schools now equipped for these kinds of lessons?
A: They spent RM5 billion for this project. Just give me RM2 million, I can convert classrooms for this purpose.
Q: How will the exams work if they are all at different levels?
A: It doesn’t matter. You take the exam when you are ready. Anytime you want.
Q: Then the exam system will have to change?
A: Yes. Its not so much about getting the certificate, its about knowing what level you are at. It should be more open.
Q: How do students get promoted to the next class then?
A: They’re being promoted according to age, not ability. At seven, you’re in Standard One, at eight, in Standard Two, whether you’re good or not. Whereas, you could be in Standard Three at the age of eight. We can encourage students and develop them according to their ability and interest. If they are weak, we can quickly address it and not average it out.
Q: What about students who just want to complete SPM and get a job that requires that as a minimum?
A: There’ll be no such thing as an SPM certificate. There will be different certificates for different subjects and if you want to do 10 subjects at SPM level, you can do it at different times.
Q: Coming back to the whole issue of teaching Mathematics and Science in English, what do we do next?
A: Go back to Bahasa Malaysia. Everyone knows Bahasa Malaysia and it’s not a loss to anyone. Teachers also feel more comfortable with it.
Q: What about the students who have been through four years under this policy?
A: They can do it in Bahasa Malaysia.
Q: Aren’t they going to be even more confused?
A: As it is, 70 per cent of students cannot follow. So, nobody is likely to lose. Those who can follow are already quite good in Bahasa Malaysia now.
It’s not a new language for them as it is already used widely in school. There will be the least negative effect on the teachers and students.
Q: What about the students who have been taught Mathematics and Science really well in English?
A: That’s just a few per cent. But even they have done Bahasa Malaysia. I don’t think they’ll lose their command of English and since they’re good at Mathematics and Science in English, they won’t lose that either.
Q: Could the system be converted immediately or would schools need a few years to phase it out?
A: Immediately.
Q: Including the ones who have to sit for exams the next year?
A: The exam papers are already in two languages. Only the textbooks are in English. I’ve always asked why they’ve deprived rural children of textbooks in two languages. That’s what they need.
Q: What if we teach English your way, but maintain Science and Mathematics in English?
A: If you want to learn a subject, the first foundation years must be taught in the mother tongue. Seventy per cent of students cannot do it in English.
Q: You presented the findings of your study to the prime minister. What was his reaction?
A: He said we should do it — convert (back to Bahasa Malaysia). He said he’d been thinking about it for a long time already.
Q: You also presented it to the education minister at a symposium. What was the reaction from the other people at that briefing?
A: They asked many questions about methodology. We could have done a study on the whole country, if we’d had a million ringgit. But we did this study for zero ringgit.
And we took many samples. We analysed test questions individually. There is no point doing an average achievement analysis.
You need to show where the student did well and where he didn’t. It has to be item-by-item, so that we know where the total is.
Then, some people from the Education Ministry’s Curiculum Development Centre said, ‘Some rural schools did well’.
So I said, ‘Which rural schools? I want to know which ones. And how many is some?’
In this situation, we’re not talking about the exceptional students. You are talking about the majority. I’m not doing the study to find out why seven per cent of Orang Asli kids can do it.
Q: So, there might be exceptions, but they don’t represent the rest?
A: Of course not.
The logical thing is to go back (to teaching Science and Mathematics in Bahasa Malaysia).
Q: So, why are people hanging on to this policy?
A: There are a few reasons. One of which is that they spent RM5 billion.
But I say, what is RM5 billion? What happened to the RM5 billion? It was spent on computers. It’s not like the computers are going to vanish if you switch to Bahasa Malaysia. The computers can still be used.
And all that training for the teachers is helpful to them, so let it be.
You don’t lose out in anything.
The second issue is that, “If we start using English now, eventually we will be good at it.”
I want to know how long do we have to wait? 20 years? An educationist doesn’t even want to see one child being destroyed by any foolish act.
If a person is sick, do you experiment on that person? To experiment with a few hundred thousand or millions is irresponsible.
Dr Mahathir’s policy was irresponsible.
But nobody questioned him. I questioned him, and he scolded me.
Q: Irresponsible because?
A: Because he knew that it couldn’t be done.
He may have been good in asking for the Petronas Twin Towers or highways to be built.
The physical development of the country is not a problem. But (with this policy) you ruin children’s lives.
And poor Malay students thought they could do it, but suddenly education has no meaning to them.
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2008/09/14
Give schools option to teach in English
By : Nisha Sabanayagam and Ili Liyana Mokhtar
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It obtained a mandate from its members at a meeting yesterday to appeal to the Education Ministry to continue with the use of English.
At present, English is used in the teaching of the two subjects from Year One to Year Six.
SK Bukit Damansara PTA vice-chairman Noor Azimah Abdul Rahim said members of the committee would be meeting PTAs from other schools next Saturday to enlist their support. A report will be submitted to the ministry.
The on-going debate among parents, educators, students and government officials on the use of English as the medium of instruction for the two subjects was sparked by a report in the New Sunday Times.
The report, based on a survey by Universiti Pendidikan Sultan Idris, said the policy introduced by former prime minister Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad in 2003 was flawed and should be scrapped.
SK Bukit Damansara PTA committee member Roz Mawar Zain said there were limitations in using English to teach Mathematics and Science. However, reverting to the national language would be too drastic. Roz Mawar added that more time was needed to gauge the results of the existing policy.
Noor Azimah said the Education Ministry should consider alternatives such as improving the current syllabus and the training of teachers instead of taking a step backwards.
“We have no intention to degrade the importance of the national language. What we want is for the younger generation to be well equipped to compete on a global level,” she said.
Should the government decide to revert to using the national language in the teaching of Science and Mathematics, the PTA committee members informed parents at yesterday’s meeting that they would suggest another option to the ministry.
“If the policy is changed, schools should be given the choice to teach both the subjects in English,” said Noor Azimah.
In the long run, these schools might be considered as cluster schools of excellence for English, she said.
Director-General of Education Alimuddin Mohd Dom said earlier last week that the results of this year’s 518,616 Ujian Pencapaian Sekolah Rendah candidates would be one of the factors that would decide whether or not the policy would be continued.
“Many other factors will be considered, including the views and suggestions from various quarters through round-table discussions,” he said.
Two round-table discussions were held in July and August on the issue. Two more discussions would be held this month.
Alimuddin said the first two discussions, which included the participation of teachers, community leaders, PTA members and professional bodies, had brought forth three views.
One was that the policy should continue and its implementation be strengthened.
The second view was that it should only be implemented at a higher level, either at the secondary level or Year Two in primary school.
The third view was for the government to scrap the policy and revert to teaching the subjects in Bahasa Malaysia.
WHAT THEY SAY:
Professor Emeritus Tan Sri Dr Ismail Hussein, president, Federation of National Writers Association
In those days, when the medium of instruction was English, we were reduced to a “minority race”. We need Bahasa Malaysia to unite, or it will widen the divide between the urban and rural folks.
But we are not rejecting the English language. It should be upheld, but teaching these subjects in English is not the answer. I give 200 per cent support to use English as an additional language. However, it will not benefit my grandmother who lives in the kampung.
Datuk Abdul Raof Husin:,
Pemuafakatan Badan Ilmiah Nasional
I find teachers are less articulate in class because they are unable to illustrate as well as they could in Bahasa Malaysia. This affects the ability of students to absorb because there is less interaction and discussion.
Studies showed that 30 per cent of UPSR students in national and vernacular schools fared poorly in Maths and Science when taught in English.
Do you think there is hope for these children to improve when they go to secondary schools? They are not going to make it if this policy continues.
Professor Emeritus Datuk Isahak Haron:, Universiti Pendidikan Sultan Idris
Just look at how the policy came to be. The decision was made because they found that students were weak in English, Maths and Science and so they decided the remedy was to teach these subjects in English!
Among Malay students, more than 87 per cent say that it is tough to learn Science in English. Science is more difficult to learn in English because you need a good command of the language to understand concepts and procedures compared with Maths.
Teachers find it difficult to teach in English and students find it difficult to understand — it is double jeopardy. The conclusion from our analysis is that the policy has brought about negative results.
Professor Dr Idris Zakaria: deputy dean, Islamic Faculty, Universiti Kebangsaan Malaysia
Due to our haste to bring progress to the country, we put into effect the English policy. But countries like China, Japan, Germany and France do not use English but they have progressed so much compared to countries where English is widely used, such as Philippines and India.
During the 7th and 14th centuries, Islam was at its golden era and there was much progress. The scholars did not use English then.
The solution is to streamline the use of English according to the field of study for tertiary education.
Goh Hin San:, president, Translation and Creative Writing Association (Perspektif)
The policy now is like operating on the leg when someone is having stomach problems.
There is no country that purposely puts aside its mother tongue to teach in another foreign language in the main school system.
A majority of the Chinese community want the policy to be reverted.
Dr Yap Sin Tian:, chairman, United Chinese School Committees Association of Malaysia (Dong Zong)
We urge the government to find effective means to improve the standard of English in schools. The government should accept the negative effects of Maths and Science being taught in English and allow us to revert to teaching in our native language.
In this way, our mother tongue is kept alive and our multiculturalism continues to thrive.
Professor Datuk Dr Abdul Latiff Abu Bakar:
This is a national issue. We must revert to Bahasa Malaysia for the sake of unity and gaining knowledge.
We must understand our history and government policies, and uphold our Constitution. The issue should not be politicised.
WHAT THE PARENTS SAY:
Anita Menon:, accountant
Both my husband and I are products of the national school system. When I was growing up, my parents did not speak English to me.
The teachers who taught us English were proficient in the language and, as a result, we are both fluent in English. The emphasis on English is now lost in the national schools.
The teachers who teach Mathematics and Science are not able to teach these subjects in English. If the educators themselves are not proficient, how are they supposed to teach students? We are now considering alternative schools for our children.
Rajini M.:, lecturer
I teach graduates and undergraduates. Most of the reference books are in English. They struggle to understand even the basic terms in English.
I do not blame them. It is the teachers who need to be trained properly. It is no use sending them for courses. Examiners should go into classrooms and see what the teachers are doing and correct them.
The situation at my workplace is such that colleagues who are not proficient in English have asked me to give them English lessons. This shows that they are interested in learning the language.
One should focus on improving the teachers’ language skills instead of switching from one language to another.
Wan Intan Ahmad:, housewife
All parents want their children to go to university, either locally or overseas. Most of these institutions use English as the medium of instruction. How are our children going to catch up?
If you want to teach something, teach it well. If we revert to Malay, how much are we going to spend this time? That is taxpayers’ money we are talking about.
Dr Mohd Ezani Md Taib, medical doctor
We need to strengthen the command of English among our students. It seems that teachers these days cannot teach the language. If we have a good command of English, we can learn anything in the language, let alone Science and Maths.
I suggest we leave the policy as it is, as it gives our students an advantage to compete better on a global scale.
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I am a Form 3 student. My friends and I have found that we are quite comfortable when we study Science and Mathematics in English. We found out that the terms for both of these subject usually come from English. If these terms have to be tranlated into Bahasa Malaysia, the meaning of the terms will be a little bit different from the original. We hope that the Education Minister will not revert the policy. Tommy, Penang: I remember when i was in secondary school, we were taught Math & Science in Bahasa Malaysia. This became a joke when Malaysian Students do not know “Segi Tiga Sama Kaki” is isosceles triangle when studying overseas. They told their lecturer that in Malaysia, the isosceles triangle is known as “Same Leg Triangle”. Every new semester when the lecturer talked bout isosceles triangle, he/she will purposely tell Malaysian students that “In your country language, it is the Same Leg Triangle”.. Is this what we want? There is a Chinese proverb stating “To suffer first before enjoying sweetness later on” Do we want all our children to score straight As in Malaysia but is seen as a ” Same leg triangle ” laughing stock at international level.. As they always say to be successful, learn from those who have achieve success.. Does the rich, successful, educated people send their children to be educated in order to become “Same Leg Triangle” ?? Thats the question we must ponder.. CHUA, TELUK INAN: I fully agree that Maths and Science should continue to be taught in English. Knowingly that today’s English proficiency amongst the students is critically low, something should be done to increase the usage of the english language, be it spoken or written. One of the reasons given for the poor implementation of teaching both the maths and science in english is teachers being unable to communicate in english. These teachers are the products when both science and maths were reverted into the national language in the early 1980s. That’s why they have difficulty with English now!! Don’t you all see that? If we were to revert these two subjects into the national language, we will be back to square one. The low level of english proficiency will never be arrested. We must persevere and find ways to improve the lot of the teachers involved in teaching these two subjects in english. We must not seek the easy way out or should I say ‘chicken out’ by reverting back. YAP YIT MIN ,MONTE-CARLO: We have to be wake up and be relistic in the world now. I was in France. You can see the new generation of people try to speak English same as they do Italian. It’s true 10 years ago people here dont like to speak english, but they need to move on and did. The same goes to us – We cannot compare ourself to PhilippineS or India. We must compare ourself with Australia or New Zealand . J, Birmingham UK: I have observed that the standard of English among Malaysians is very poor and declining rapidly. Even for a blue chip multinational in which I worked in for a number of years, the levels of spoken and written English by the staff and managers have generally been low. I have at times been embarrassed by how poorly our people, of all ethnicities, communicate with others both locally and abroad. I can say this: being highly proficient in English is no longer a competitive advantage in this world, it is a basic requirement. Although I am not an educationist (I am an engineer) I feel that the debates concerning the teaching of Science and Mathematics in English are rather sterile when we consider the shortcomings of the overall education system. We need young people who are creative, critical, can think for themselves and are articulate in expressing their ideas! KH Lee, Hong Kong: It is stupid of professors to compare Malaysia with China, Japan, Germany and France for using their national language as medium in their country. They have the critical mass to make publishing university reference books (including translations) in their national language. Can we say the same about Malaysia??? Do we have the critical mass to do make the translations economically viable? As long as university reference books continue to be in English, we will have half-baked graduates who do not have enough exposure to technical knowledge or what is happening outside Malaysia – unless they studied in English francis tan, Puchong: I was a former school head for 12 years. I had the opportunity to be involved directly in the teaching of maths and science in english. Most of the teachers teaching the said subjects were not proficient at all in english. They were not competent. They were forced to teach because of the policy. They attended short holiday courses to improve (so to say) their command of the language. They would revert to Bahasa Malaysia when teaching the subjects. In name it is science and maths in english but what is actually happening is science and maths are TAUGHT in bahasa malaysia. The schools had been provided with laptops and lcds but the number of teachers using the facilities is minimal. It is a great waste of taxpayers money. Not much thought has been given prior to its impementation. My proposal is that the subjects be taught in BM/Chinese/Tamil. Find ways to increase the number of periods in the teaching of the english language. Mdm Liew, Sandakan: Pls continue to have Maths & Science in English, it helps a lot when they continue to further their studies. sharen jeet kaur, ipoh: english and bahasa malaysia should be taught with equal emphasis as language subjects. maths and science should be taught in a language that will allow us to compete globally. continuously thinking in one language and expressing in another is non-value added. Ronnie, Kuala Lumpur: In my opinion, Tun Dr. Mahathir wants these 2 subjects to be taught in English because almost all reference books and mathematics formulas are in english, as such, when our students, university students and researches need to acquire further knowledge through reference books and science journals, they will face no problems.
Tun Dr. Mahathir is a far sighted and a visionary leader and I feel that this is one of his best policies to enable our country to compete and progress with the rest of the world.
Wijen, Johor: I am a professor and also running an english language centre, the problem today lies on the teachers – not the students – and why do i say this is because i am currently teaching the school teachers back in johor and the teachers are just lazy because they will not attend the english class and always give excuses and are not interested in the english language. I really wonder how will they educate the young generation when they are not good in the language? I think the government needs to do something about this matter before it is too late. Dont let the teachers just sit there and do nothing, they have got a lot of work to do. Please maintain the usage of English.Thank you. Majid, Alor Star: Their chances of securing employment or careers of their choice would greatly improve.
Please continue PPSMI.
john, K.Lumpur: Changes in the education system need at least 10 years to take hold and only then, can we can reap the rewards.
For the educational improvements to take place, it needs a lot of time and effort. Maturity is when we can forego instant gratification for long term results.
LKC, Cameron Highlands: I hope that the use of English to teach Science and Mathematics will go on. Ir. Ong Ou Ping, Kota Kinabalu: |
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2008/09/12
Video :Teaching MATH & SCIENCE IN ENGLISH: Debate is healthy – Hishamuddin
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September 16, 2008 at 2:33 pm
NUTP tolak Sains, Matematik guna BI di sekolah rendah
KUALA LUMPUR: Kesatuan Perkhidmatan Perguruan Kebangsaan (NUTP), semalam menolak pelaksanaan sistem Pengajaran dan Pembelajaran Sains dan Matematik Dalam Bahasa Inggeris (PPSMI) di peringkat sekolah rendah.
Pendirian terbaru kesatuan mewakili 135,000 guru itu yang sebelum ini menyokong program dilaksanakan Kementerian Pelajaran sejak 2003 diputuskan ketika Persidangan Perwakilan NUTP ke-18 di Pulau Pinang pada 24 hingga 27 Ogos lalu.
Setiausaha Agung NUTP, Loke Yim Pheng, berkata delegasi menolaknya selepas mendapati majoriti murid di sekolah rendah mengalami kesukaran mengikutinya terutama dari segi memahami istilah Sains serta Matematik dalam Bahasa Inggeris.
“Menerusi maklumat dan pandangan diterima daripada guru terbabit dalam PPSMI, murid di sekolah rendah terutama mereka di tahap satu (tahun satu hingga tiga) masih gagal menguasai istilah dua subjek itu ketika diajar dalam Bahasa Inggeris.
“Ia menyebabkan guru turut mengalami kesukaran mengajar kerana murid langsung tidak memahami apa yang diajar guru. Sehubungan itu, ahli menolak PSSMI di sekolah rendah kerana tiada faedah diperoleh jika situasi berkenaan berterusan.
“Bagaimanapun, NUTP tetap menyokong pelaksanaan PSSMI di peringkat sekolah menengah kerana murid masih boleh mengikutinya dengan baik kerana sudah mendapat sedikit pendedahan dari segi istilah,” katanya ketika dihubungi Berita Harian di sini, semalam.
Pada 2002, Kabinet memutuskan Bahasa Inggeris digunakan dalam pengajaran dan pembelajaran Sains dan Matematik bertujuan meningkatkan penguasaan bahasa berkenaan serta kualiti murid bagi melahirkan modal insan berkualiti.
Keputusan sama ada pengajaran dan pembelajaran subjek itu akan kembali diajar dalam bahasa Malaysia akan ditentukan pada akhir tahun ini dengan keputusan Ujian Pencapaian Sekolah Rendah (UPSR) tahun ini akan diambil kira dalam menentukannya.
Selain itu, Kementerian Pelajaran juga menggunakan resolusi Persidangan Meja Bulat PPSMI yang dianggotai tokoh akademik, penyelidik dan wakil pertubuhan bukan kerajaan (NGO) untuk meneliti laporan kajian, tinjauan dan pemantauan berkaitan pelaksanaan PPSMI.
Mengulas lanjut, Loke berkata, pendirian NUTP itu tidak bermaksud pihaknya menolak serta merta PPSMI di sekolah rendah sebaliknya mencadangkan supaya ia melalui proses penambahbaikan sebelum diperkenalkan semula.
“Kami mencadangkan supaya istilah Sains dan Matematik diajar dalam silibus subjek Bahasa Inggeris bermula dari peringkat prasekolah sehingga darjah tiga bagi memantapkan lagi penguasaan bahasa berkenaan.
“Selepas yakin murid dari peringkat itu sudah boleh menguasai Bahasa Inggeris dengan baik, kerajaan mungkin boleh mempertimbangkan untuk memperkenalkan semula PPSMI di sistem pendidikan negara,” katanya.
Oleh Amin Ridzuan Ishak
aminridzuan@bharian.com.my